8/11/2023 0 Comments Scene mosh pit gif![]() Crowd killing sucks and it is not concerned with the values of hardcore whatsoever. OR: A Wall of Death How does this matter in the time of Trump and Corona?įirst, I hope it becomes clear that violence is not tolerated in the hardcore scene. While it is easy to avoid crowd killers by keeping your distance from the pit, it is more difficult to avoid reckless moshers, since mosh pits are less predictable and can appear quite suddenly. Both act in inconsiderate ways and hurt others. This is eerily similar to crowd killing, since there does not seem to be a big difference between reckless moshers at a mosh pit and crowd killers at a hardcore show. This can happen at hardcore shows too but I mostly experienced this at bigger, mainstream shows. People doing this justify this by claiming that they ‘blow off some steam’ and thus excuse their behaviour, which can ruin a concert for others. You could interpret this as a tendency of toxic masculinity, using the mosh pit as a means to justify irresponsible (overly manly) behaviour. Also, I could often see that people who behave irresponsibly at mosh pits and are confronted because of that tend to shrug it off as ‘normal behaviour’ in a pit. If you consider that people dance with less consideration and that there are less unwritten rules when it comes to moshing, you could assume that it is more likely for people to act violently at mosh pits. I do not like generalisations, so I would like to emphasise that the following is my personal view on the topic based on my experiences at shows. Surely, there are no statistics regarding this topic, since there are more important issues in the world. This increases the risk of accidents and injuries at main stream concerts and pits. Its name stems from its form: it consists of just two steps What are the Problems of Pits at Mainstream Shows?Īs stated earlier, people at mosh pits act less consciously than people at hardcore shows. The twostep is the basic dance move at hardcore shows. I’d take some nice twostep over it at any time! In contrast, it destroys the safe space that a show provides for all sorts of people through unnecessary violence and gives the scene a bad representation in the process. Of course, there are some people who do not mind others but one should not generalise this and assume that all people in the scene behave recklessly.Ĭrowd killing is not hardcore and it does not suit the values of the scene. If you mosh, you do it responsibly and in consideration of others. However, this is not the case and there are plenty of people in the scene who dislike crowd killing and disrespectful behaviour at shows in general. ![]() Unfortunately, some people who do not seem to be that involved in the scene, do not differentiate between people who crowd kill and normal visitors of hardcore shows and based on cases of crowd killing, these people assume that throw-down is aggressive in general and that people aim to hurt others. On the contrary, I think it is just unnecessary.Ī misconception about this is that people crowd kill at every show or that hardcore kids are all aggressive. However, this does not mean that I condone crowd killing. Therefore, in this post, I hope to provide a differentiated view on mosh pits in the hardcore scene and at mainstream shows in order to clarify some misunderstandings related to this topic.Ģ) When a pseudo tough-guy with an ego complex punches a member of the crowd in the face (often as a sucka-punch)because it makes him feel like a man.Ĭrowd killing can happen at any show but it is easy to avoid, since you can stay away from the pit and its edge if you realise that the crowd is too rowdy for your liking. Under such videos, you can also find spiteful comments, in which people justify slam dancing in a bad way. They often address the topic in a one-sided fashion and equate this type of dancing with assault. There is a similar tendency for videos by people who address the topic but appear not to be concerned with the scene. Depending on the band and its following, these comments can be followed by hate comments towards the people writing comments about slam dancing, throw-down or however you want to call it. When you watch a gig by a hardcore band on YouTube, there are often comments in which people make fun of the dance moves in a pit and call them karate or similar things. This week, I will be talking about pits at hardcore shows. However, most people tend not to provide a differentiated opinion on the topic. There is a certain topic related to it that is frequently addressed. It does not matter if you are part of the alternative music scene or not.
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